I have a question with regards to the DSG option, it only shows the 7 speed option, is this the dry clutch unit that as we know has suffered reliability problems, if so why is the 6 speed unit not available. 4, A5 2. DL501 7-speed gearbox 3 Sep 2015 I have the 7 speed DSG in a 09 octavia and it was recalled to replace the oil with a mineral oil seemingly the original oil caused problems with the dreaded The 7 speed are a dry clutch setup with the oil being used for control only. I have owned a Skoda Superb 1. . Is this true? If so is there a fix? Secondly, it seems that the 7 speed dry clutch DSG fitted to this car has been plagued with all sorts of mechanical problems, leading to expensive repairs outside the DSG 0AM (dry clutch). . The wet clutch DSG in US VAG products is much smoother. You may find it has already 30 Jul 2017 The dual-clutch transmission, also known as the Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG) or twin-clutch transmission, is an automated transmission that can change gears faster than any other geared transmission. Neither of these parts have shown to be an common issue. The seller's warranty excludes “failure of the mechatronic valve body”. 6M cars Do note that the issue that plagues most VW owners here are the dry clutch DSG 7-speed (DQ200). 16 Nov 2013 Obviously the UK 7 speed DSG recall is what interests me and in particular synthetic vs mineral oil overheating issue. btw, there are 1. This gearbox was the main 27 Mar 2018 The 7 speed DSG has made many improvements over the older 6 speed variant, but it's not without its problems. Reprogramming the Mechatronic unit with modified software from TVS resolved many of these failures. Looking for . gif. Can someone with a bit of knowledge help me understand what is it in these DSG gearboxes that actually 'fail' or giveaway? I understand it is a dry-clutch (correct me if I'm wrong) and they are basically a manual in an auto. What VAG DSG gearboxes do we adjust? The DSG gearboxes that we software wise customize include: DQ200 7-speed gearbox with dry clutch (also the MQB). I've just dropped Polo GTi as one of the options in my y2015 shoping list for conti B-segment hot-hatch due to Problematic 7-speed dry clutch DSG!. all DSG in VAG group has been total junk, this is just a band aid on a much bigger problem . 7 speed DSG has no oil as its a dry clutch system, its a service action based on customers complaint and only if the dealer finds the info about it. July 9th, 2015 at 9:33 am. 8 TSI DSG estate since new. fing30. I always thought that it was the older ones that were the problem as they used a dry clutch, now they have changed it to a wet clutch and the dsg boxes are much better. This is not the most common of VW issues, but it is The 6 speed has a wet clutch which I guess introduces some drag, which is why it's less efficient; the dry clutch 7 speed one is the one that's meant to be more efficient but that's only on I had an A3 S-Line with DSG paddle shift – no problems with the gear box in fact the opposite i found it amazingly good. I've done a bit more digging about this problem, and found out that the actual gearbox (dry-clutch 7-speed, DQ200) is meant to be very reliable and should easily do 250,000kms. While getting a smooth initial engagement takes a little practice, our A3 snaps off incredibly fast and smooth shifts, even under full throttle. QN: which DQ model is in the R mk7? Has anyone had issues with their R mk6 DSG? 10 Sep 2015 Volkswagen uses three twin clutch transmission types - 'small' seven-speed DSG with two dry clutches and six-speed DSG and the 'big' seven-speed units where the dual clutches run wet in oil baths. Answer is no for now. No issues at all after 60k mi and 5 Jul 2014 Buyers must note that unlike a traditional torque convertor gearbox or even a wet clutch DSG (which will suffer at the very least some mechatronic issues if you drive like an idiot most of the time - explaination below) a dry clutch DSG has two clutches to assist in the changing of gears. jpeg 24 Sep 2014 Q. I've also read a bit about user error (e. but also that the haldex isnt serviceable either. thanks for the reply. 7 speed Dry Clutch FWD - Some issues with clutches, and 14 Mar 2014 VW DSG problem - posted in Other Makes: Sorry for deviating the forum, but, indeed DSG problem is so prevails and it is getting out of control now. 2 has been known to have some rather expensive issues as they age. It's had its ups and its downs, but This is, after all, a brand new 7-speed gearbox, so it could eventually develop the same problems plagued by the DSG DQ250 from Volkswagen. Signature can offer 18 Jul 2015 Mostly, I was curious to find out if it still has the legs against the current crop of D-segment competitors, and partly to get reacquainted with a Volkswagen, especially one with the now infamous dry-clutch Direct Shift Gearbox (DSG). The Golf you're looking at almost certainly has the seven-speed dry clutch; VW issued a recall of 7 May 2015 Against all odds, I trusted that Volkswagen must have sorted out the gearbox issues that plagued the DQ200 DSG Dry Dual Clutch boxes, but alas - it was not so I think my post must begin with the. From what a few experts in the VW field have told us, they have not been seeing any DSG failures these days. 18 Jul 2017 Posted July 18, 2017. When that happens, the vehicle 4 Apr 2016 The DQ200 DSG is a flawed design and it astonishes me that anyone who reads forums such as these would buy any car from the VW group with this dry-clu. Thanks "jamespaul". The front wheel drive Audis on the new A4 1. " Dual-clutch transmissions are twin gearboxes linked by a pair of clutches newer versions of the 6 spd FWD (probably around 2008-9 onwards) have learnt from failures in earlier iterations (2003-7) - early cars ( TT was the first), had mainly Mechatronics issues, these can fixed outside the VW network now at less than £2k. g. I'd like a DSG BUT have read of issues re: bearings wearing out and metal depositing around sensors causing issues and clutch pack failures on the DQ250 wet clutch in the mk6. Signature Transmissions DSG repairs are not always straight forward and do not always results in full rebuilds to get the vehicle in a full functional working order. 0, and current gen A6 17 Mar 2014 Although we've heard of issues with both types of dual-clutch transmissions, it's the general belief that dry clutch versions of the transmission are far more As an example, in Malaysia the six-speed DSG in the Volkswagen Golf GTI as well as the seven-speed S-Tronic units in Audis are wet clutch units. passat6 My impression of the DSG has 21 Dec 2013 Heard of Cowes. So, in summary: They had issues with the design and resolved them. Not so much with the 25 Jan 2014 Cross Touran I would personally advise anyone from buying these cars as these cars have known issues. I want to buy a 2008 Volkswagen Cross Golf but have heard of problems with the DSG transmission. Wasn't the last dry clutch DSG 'box the 7-speed DQ200 that loads of people had problems with? I got onto the DSG dry/wet debate and they all look at each other baffled, came back and confirm its a sealed dry clutch. 8tsi variant in Malaysia, namely Polo, Jetta, Passat and Golf whereas the GTI, 2. 2tsi, 1. In the rest of world market, it is found in other drivetrain combinations as well. creeping in traffic) that causes problems. Anything dry rubbing 16 Jun 2016 Volkswagen and Audi have had a slightly bumpy road with dual-clutch transmissions, recalling thousands of cars equipped with a dry-clutch away from dual-clutch transmissions and back to a conventional automatic when the latest Focus arrived in 2015 after a spate of issues left thousands of customers Thanks for all the replies guys. 4l using the 6 sp dsg. This is a Mine I'm waiting to change the clutch My problem came right after they made the mineral oil + settings change damn last week happened once where my car feels like almost stopped and go that's the worst so far Normally it judders. Audi A4 and above uses the Longitudinal Gearboxes which are different from VWs dry clutch transverse 7-Spd DSG. Starting in 2007. The DSG/DCT uses 2 clutches which can either be a wet or dry clutch, they have even experimented with what they call a moist clutch. I now wish to change the car and the Golf SV 1. gif VW DSG Problems Today on “How VW parts fail”, we are looking at the mechantronics unit from the 7 speed DSG transmission. VW is facing 2. I hear these cars have been subject to DSG recalls in other parts of the world, so why not here? MD, East Cowes. Early six-speed units suffered from problems with a 'mechatronic' component that led to consumer 9 Jul 2015 sproc. Their has been reliability issues with the 6speed DSG and 7 speed dry clutch DSG, the newer 7 speed wet clutch DSG I am not sure. But, as you aren't having any issues as such I wouldn't recommend it. Much of this information was 20 Apr 2012 Those minor quibbles about DCTs, however, are nothing compared to the issues that have plagued single clutch sequential gearboxes. There are many Bearing problems; Electrical wiring issues; Mechatronic issues; Clutch noises and failed material. and weight-savings over earlier models. Sounds like a I think they are underestimating. Its the 7 speed dry clutch box which has had huge problems in China, US and Australia. These are both replaceable (but expensive) parts. The problem with dry-clutch seven-speed DSGs appears to be either warping of the plates or electrolysis, 30 Jul 2014 In the July issue of Motor Age, we took sometime to discuss the DSG, specifically the DQ200 dual dry clutch unit covering typical failures encountered with this transmission. This solution made the clutch assemblies wear out too fast and so they deliberately engineered “loss of drive” functionality back into the gearbox. DQ250 6-speed gearbox with wet clutch (also the MQB). Tags: dct, direct shift gearbox, dsg, dual clutch transmission, dual-clutch, Featured Tips and Advice, Ford, Ford Powershift, Mercedes-Benz, new cars, PowerShift, 29 Jun 2016 The twin-clutch transmission has been around in mainstream cars for a really long time, over a decade. but still going fine so far no breakdown but the feeling is Firstly, it seems that all DSG boxes can be prone to hesitation pulling away from roundabouts for instance. DQ500 7-speed gearbox with wet clutch. But the two most significant changes were separating the hydraulic system from the rest of the transmission, and moving to a dry dual clutch assembly. 0 variant and Looks like the DQ200 is the only odd one out with it being “dry” clutch whereas the rest are wet. The DQ200, which is a dry clutch gearbox, is the one which has been plagued by DSG failures. The dry clutch is Some of the basic more common problems or symptoms on a DSG are: Another known problem for the DSG is to have faults with the mechatronic/Valve Body. This transmission is only found in the Jetta Hybrid in the US market. At Is it the same problematic issues?I am going to sound like a broken record for all things A4. 4 TSI DSG ticks most of the boxes for me. Dual clutch transmissions deliver more power and better control than a traditional automatic transmission The latest DSG a DQ200 7 speed gearbox has been introduced with a dry clutch system and some of the early ones can have problems with judders and slipping clutches, we are now trained by LUK and VW to replace these clutches using the latest tooling and software. "We are seeing major problems that will leave people stranded on the side of the road. 4tsi and 1. 21 Jan 2017 - 49 secThe LUK "dry-clutch" has much problems. "Only two things are infinite-the 5 Feb 2016 The first are the actual reliability issues. having had 2 DSG cars. It is only used in low-torque I would personally avoid speccing it with DSG if you're planning to keep it beyond the warranty period - as the 7-speed dry-clutch DSG unit that comes with the 1. 4 Dec 2015 Are there any reliability issues with the VW 7 speed DSG gearbox in the 81 kw engine? With a With the DSG box this forward action means a clutch is being slipped. The DQ200 gearbox is a 7-speed transverse dry-clutch unit that is not used in any of the VAG cars sold in Canada/US. The weak points that will be likely to fail will be the DSG Clutch Packs or the mechatronics unit. post-132346-0-89092500-1478342171_thumb. Even today in 2017 the first A direct-shift gearbox (German: Direkt-Schalt-Getriebe), commonly abbreviated to DSG, is an electronically controlled dual-clutch multiple-shaft manual gearbox in a transaxle design, without a conventional clutch pedal and with fully automatic or semi-manual control. The problem lies with the mechatronic, which is the computer box that controls the DSG. You don't want that 5 Jul 2014 ANSWER: The most common problem is related to the Dry clutch 7-speed DSG gearbox (code name DQ200) in which the mechatronic unit (the brain that replaces your left foot in a manual car and determines which optimum gear to engage based on driving conditions) fails. Very few using 6-speed and 7 Dec 2015 "In the past, transmissions were things you could count on, but that's no longer true," said Jake Fisher, Consumer Reports' director of auto testing. If 7-speed dual-clutch auto gearbox engineering design reliability problem, that practically affect most of the models and their versions. However, the new wet clutch version of the 7 speed DSG is not in this model so I wonder whether the 'old' dry clutch box is still a 23 Jan 2017 - 9 min - Uploaded by Additivi BlueIn our workshop we always find problems on dry dual clutch transmission of Audi A1. 9 Jan 2017 I am aware of the conductive oil problem with this gearbox from reading your website. (I may have the dry/wet the wrong way round, but they have definitely moved from one to the other). The way I look at it is, if the mechatronics unit goes, its basically the same cost as changing a clutch on anything sporty, since the wet clutch on DSG's don't really wear I wouldn't be too worried about the costs. A. 20 Jan 2015 Hi all I'm new and about to purchase a R. Should I proceed? DM, London. smile_thumbup. The first actual dual-clutch transmissions were derived tankgunner wrote: The problem lies with the engineering design of the 7 sp dry dsg. The five-speed manual and four-speed automatic transmissions of yore might have been long in the tooth, but with age comes wisdom — or at least, reliability — and automakers had become remarkably proficient at their fault-free manufacture. It started out well many years ago. We like to solve this problem for you. ECU's have been replaced in the past unnecessary 2 Mar 2017 Most issues were related to the DQ200 (commonly known as DSG7) gearbox, which are fitted on 1. All,. IIRC, the Powershift is a dry clutch model