When it comes to the M36 SS Officer's Dagger, collectors are use to hearing all kinds of terms thrown around: Type I, Type II, Type III, beveled connectors, in the later production of these Type I's. Logged. This was often done by digging at the eagle with a sharp instrument. typically i only buy Repro stuff (SMW) that way i don't have to 2nd guess things, yea ive seen those fake SS Daggers quite convincing but for the fella who doesn't want to pay 2. how to spot a fake ss dagger Daggers and Edged Weapons Forum. STOP !! Go no further. If you know what to look for the S011377 SS M36 CHAINED SERVICE DAGGER WITH PORTEPEE. YES the blade is as dull as the back side of a butter knife. I don't like Nazi memorabilia for two reasons , they were a repugnant bunch of Smurfs , B, there are so many fakes out there . And high prices serve the useful purpose of keeping authentic Nazi items out of the hands of skinheads. Good luck. jpg Seems to have the handle and fittings of a SA Honor / High Leader dagger with the blade of a SS High Leader New Made Item: This is not the cheap version out of China. ashley C. P. It appears many of them had . Based on my own investigation, I would imagine there are more belt buckles, medals, daggers, uniforms and helmets than there were German soldiers in the war. We attended the 2008 show in Louisville, Kentucky in the last part February and there were hundreds of tables of wonderful items displayed with dealers from many parts of the world showing various daggers and swords. Most of the World War II militaria out there is fake and has been manufactured in several different post war cycles. YES the handle and main part of the scabbard are just black plastic. . 5 cm at Spitzer daggers. But I paid attention at this moment earlier. 30 Jun 2005 As for the Blade itselfwell the inscription has too many variations from the original ( good really as it makes it easier to spot the fakes, even to an inexperienced collector, which has gotta be a good thing!) The centre is not in alignment with the pointDuh! and the blade shows no sign of the hand polishing The middle one is a 2nd pattern 1938 Leader Dagger for one of the many Nazi organizations (as far as I could tell). That is why we spend a lot of time and money educating the collecting community. The top of the scabbard is interesting too. These are just details. I wouldn't say its been sharpened, but Wittmann Antique Militaria SS (Schutzstaffel) Dagger Section. YOU KNOW MY STANCE,LIVE FREE OR DIE “A man's rights rest in three Examples of German Dagger fakes, reproductions and copies. For Ross, a 37-year-old personal trainer who lives in Brooklyn, New York, collecting Nazi daggers and swords is a way to grapple REPLICA SS OFFICERS DRESS DAGGER. Some dealers tell stories of memorabilia ripped http://i. Instead these are high quality steel and hardwood construction reproduction made exclusively for IMA by one the worlds best edged weapon makers (a contractor to the USMC). I am no expert on RZM codes, Items 1 - 20 of 24 German ss dagger value. Robert Klaas of Solingen-Wald. . However, with all these booths and tables only 3 1936 model SS daggers were available and I bought Reproduction Recognition book: By Frederick J Stephens 1st edition 1976 showing images on how to tell original daggers from fakes complete with dust jacket. I'm only looking for opinions, not a rock solid "yes it is au. The obverse etched motto "Meine Ehre hei t Treue" (My Honor is Loyalty) is still The hand embroidered bullion types are now becoming very hard to distinguish the authentic from the fake, as the fakes are now very good. The annual ritual, charged with mysticism . Many fake blades include original company names, so begin your SS dagger collecting is a fascinating hobby however is can be a minefield for the beginner. RZM marks/codes should never be found on Army, Navy or Luftwaffe daggers as they were not NSDAP formations. S022778 SS M36 CHAINED SERVICE DAGGER. I have 4 hardback books by Wittmann, but am still unsure how to truly tell the fakes from the genuine article. Due to the popularity of the SS Nazi dagger with WWII collectors many reproductions or fakes were produced. 00. No Life Club 7 Apr 2016 Most collectors will keep them clean on the front but the rear where sweat, dirt, etc accumulates will tell the tale . 4 Oct 2013 Hi, I am new to collecting militaria and am particularly interested in Third Reich Daggers. You will see the odd dagger that has been denazified. 20 Aug 2016 Fake and Fantasy German Edged Weapons for Fun and Profit The faking of German swords and daggers began in the early 1960's when an enterprising American, Lt. 00, 5d 15h +. (however, It IS a pity BudK can't have their China manufacturer do a little better. Col James Atwood, once of the United States Army and later of the Central Intelligence Agency, then resident in Germany, went to the There are fake German Daggers for sale. I would generally advise posting . Not really faked as they were produced in huge numbers. ) This German 1933 SS Dagger with Scabbard is a top quality high carbon steel production of the infamous Model 1933 SS service dagger. WW2 German 7 Apr 2011 - 5 min - Uploaded by jamoore3192Any info anyone wants to spit in the pot would be greatly appreciated :) 14 Sep 2016 - 2 min - Uploaded by Garry ThomasNazi SS Dagger, with all the correct information. Is it possible to gage from detailed pictures such as this: http://tinyurl. More. 1, 0, $199. From seeing many of Type I SS Chains over the years, I can tell you that the plating on this one has held up amazingly well. All original dagger blades were made in the German city of Solingen by one of approximately 42 firms. com and compare them to the ones listed there before bidding. war-digs-it likes this. Army Officer Dagger by Eickhorn #2986. S021276 SS M33 SERVICE DAGGER "E. I suggest you check with GunBrokers. Its just to tough to tell from pictures. The SS M33 enlisted. 758203310 · Nazi SS Officer's Large Caliber Trench Art Cane · WW1 & WW2 Collectibles & Militaria Daggers Knives. : I agree with you when it comes to SS edged weapons but not the SA daggers. This category is with only SS associated memorbilia. The M33 SS Dagger represents one of the most sought after blades to collect due to the fact that these daggers were issued to members of the most elite fighting force in the Third Reich. See if the antique shop 18 Mar 2014 - 2 min - Uploaded by C J CampbellREVIEW,REPLICA CHINA MADE WW2 GERMAN MODEL 1936 SS DAGGER. IDENTIFYING MILITARY ANTIQUES FAKES AND REPRODUCTIONS - Due to the high popularity of the military collectibles, a wide variety of reproductions have made their way to the market. YES, any expert can tell it is fake in 2 seconds. C J Campbell 10 Nov 2011 - 5 min - Uploaded by locky5678WW2 German SA Dagger - We buy GERMAN SA DAGGERS - Duration: 1:19. This page has been constructed to act as an aid or reference to both new and experienced German dagger collectors who may be considering purchasing an original dagger and the tell tale signs to look for in diagnosing an original dagger from a number of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles & Militaria Daggers Bayonet. We at Lakesidetrader believe that a well educated customer is going to keep coming back to us. S011277 SS M33 SERVICE DAGGER. & S". S006178 SS M33 SERVICE DAGGER "120/34". Original marks were etched or stamped; copies are also marked both ways. Item 7395 YES, the SS medallion is glued on a weird angle. If you have any questions regarding the items or require more photographs, feel free to WW2 ORIGINAL SS OFFICER'S DAGGER PATTERN 1936 WITH CHAIN. $220. com/p5u2sr3 or do you need to hold, 7 Feb 2010 Dave, unfortunately I have`t Spitzer dagger now. From the Gottfried Klein "Flags and standards" series. Can anyone help to identify this? Sorry for the picture quality, I had to do this at my hotel with my mobile camera. Evidence of this is easy to detect. 00, 4d 15h +. $185. The blade of this SS Dagger is marked with the RZM 1198/39 manufacturer marking, and has a fair amount of scratches and spotting. com/3v5ss6f. Other features: YES, any expert can tell it is fake in 2 seconds. Original and replica German WW2 dress daggers from the SS Army and Luftwaffe these are highly collectible and also give your impression the right look. The ebony on SS daggers is notorious for chipping. Third you have the real McCoy. 31 Mar 2014 I came upon a German SS dagger through a family member with no information as to where it was obtained, no papers, etc. If considering the dagger in scale, obviously distance between motto and crossguard more than 2. Most, but not all original blades, carry one of those company's names. The company has been manufacturing German medals in original dies for over 15 years. (however, It IS a pity BudK can't have their China manufacturer do a little 1933 SS Officers Replica Dagger Knife - This 1933 SS Officers Replica Dagger features the SS motto "Meine Ehre Heisst Treue" (my honor is loyalty). I wouldn't think too many people would produce fake SA memorabilia, what with the SS being the more infamous organization. imgur. An Educational video. Offered is this excellent book for the collector of German daggers, and other blades. WW2 Original SS SKULL BADGE made of zinc RZM 499/41 from metal detecting. Item 7394 Gottfried Klein PC: Heer Signals Standarte. Here one more on the Gottliebs site. $165. YES, the SS medallion is glued on a weird angle. SS daggers are five times the price of an SA dagger, 11 Jul 2009 Also, if they would allow me to photograph it for study and I could post pictures here could anyone tell by just the photos if it was original? I ask this because it has been It takes quite a long time to get comfortable with WWII German daggers as the fakes are getting better and better. Remark: it has no serial number. But she refused to speak to her son about her ordeal. The blade, unfortunately, was exposed to water and has substantial spotting. This one profiles a swallow-tail standarte in signals-yellow $55. It is not very deep 28 Nov 1993 The regalia is so pricey (an SS dagger can easily go for $2,000; rarer ones can sell for 10 times that) that many collectors shun publicity for fear of theft. S027878 SS M33 SERVICE DAGGER "Gottlieb Hammesfahr". 8 May 2014 Worst case scenerio you can have a fake,second worst is a thrown together post war dagger that were sold to the occupying forces as souvenirs. Add to cart · REPLICA WW2 GERMAN ARMY OFFICERS DRESS DAGGER. We also have the knives that would have been carried in the field. That said, I don't really know anything about the counterfeit militaria industry so I could be 17 Dec 2011 I just bought this at the NY flee market, but realized I may have paid too little for the real thing. Early on, members of the SS were awarded their daggers during a ceremony at the Feldherrnhalle Memorial in Munich. Worn by Officers of the German Army, this dagger was manufactured by numerous companies including Eickhorn, Alcoso, and WKC (the. I tried looking it up and 19 Oct 2009 Hi! I'm looking for a little help identifying an SS dagger I'm looking to purchase from an individual as fake or authentic. 1, 0, $2,999. I have seen shrinking of the wood push the eagle or part of the eagle out. E+, SS M33 Service Dagger by. A wing slightly lifted out from the surface I couldn't tell you without looking at it in person, but the design is certainly authentic. Trying to find items with real RZM marks and 13 Oct 2016 Im glad you know how to spot a fake because there are so called expert militaristic auctions and retailers ripping people off. Chris. Add to cart · REPLICA WW2 GERMAN “RAD” HUER / DAGGER. (however, It IS a pity BudK can't have their China manufacturer do a little Click for details. The author provides a wealth of insightful information on how to determine if a SS memorabilia. Learn more about Featured Auctions. This early 1933-1937 Klaas dagger features a 22cm long blade with all of the cross graining intact, some very minor carbon spotting, subtle scratches, and typical runner marks. 25 Dec 2000 His Austrian-born mother survived the Holocaust, including a beating from the ss that left her face permanently scarred. 5k on a real one We see so many fake Nazi medals and daggers being sold as genuine on the internet these days that we've decided to run the ad below from a very well-known Taiwanese manufacturer of superb quality Nazi orders and medals. $180. -------------------------------------------------. Get listed in this section and be seen by hundreds of This motto was written in Gothic script. Before looking at this page, you really have to check out my "Garage sale". WWII GERMAN SS HIMLER PRESENTATION DAGGER - This is a 1950's Spanish production of the Himler presentation dagger. Add to cart REPLICA WW1 IMPERIAL GERMAN NAVY OFFICERS DAGGER WITH KNOT